How 10 Minutes of Cell Phone Use Can Cost $187
Filed under: Buyer Beware, Technology
When Mitchell Brown's cell phone bill arrived this month, the total was so high he did a double-take a
nd immediately started a line-by-line examination of the charges.
"There was nothing weird with the land line or Internet usage, but then I got to the wireless page and there was a charge of $187 for a roaming access charge," the Toronto journalist told WalletPop. "That's all it said: no explanation, no dates, nada."
A call to Bell got him transferred to Bell Mobility, where a representative told Brown that someone had used a smart phone on three separate occasions on Jan. 30 while travelling in the U.S.
Turns out that Brown's wife Michelle Scrimgeour-Brown had gotten lost while on a shopping trip in Buffalo with some friends. Just as she would have done in Toronto, Scrimgeour-Brown had tried to use her phone to access Google Maps. The session timed out three times. The three Internet sessions referenced by Bell were actually three unsuccessful attempts to access a map.
"We're basically talking about 10 minutes of access costing us $187," said Brown.
"How could a few minutes of phone surfing possibly cost almost $200?" Brown had asked the Bell Mobility representative.
The rep was sympathetic, Brown recalled, but couldn't do anything about the charge. Bell doesn't own the infrastructure south of the border, so when a Bell subscriber uses the Web on a smart phone outside Bell's territory, it has to charge a fee to cover the cost of users accessing the Internet in the U.S.
It was an expensive way for the Toronto-based family to learn to turn off roaming when outside their cellular carrier's territory. "Michelle was mortified," said Brown. "She didn't know."
"Funny how Bell doesn't put THAT in their ads," said Brown. "Don't you think it would be nice of them to let you know how much it costs before it's on your bill?"
Complaints about cell phone companies topped the list of complaints made to the Better Business Bureau last year, and billing was so confusing that in the U.S. the Federal Communications Commission is asking for help in advising cellular companies on how to simplify their bills.
The lesson? "Paper rules," said Brown. Paper maps, that is.
But turning off roaming when you enter the U.S. may not be enough to avoid such errant charges. When travelling near the Canada-U.S. border, your phone may temporarily switch to a U.S. carrier's network without you knowing it, said WalletPop's tax and technology blogger Terry Fong.
"I was once charged $25 for a 20-minute call that should have cost $4 because I made the call while on a train from Montreal to Toronto," he said. "I was off the Rogers network when I made the call."
Data costs can be even more expensive, Fong noted, especially if the network is not your carrier's U.S. partner.
Read what Fong says you need to do to prevent something like this from happening to you.
nd immediately started a line-by-line examination of the charges."There was nothing weird with the land line or Internet usage, but then I got to the wireless page and there was a charge of $187 for a roaming access charge," the Toronto journalist told WalletPop. "That's all it said: no explanation, no dates, nada."
Turns out that Brown's wife Michelle Scrimgeour-Brown had gotten lost while on a shopping trip in Buffalo with some friends. Just as she would have done in Toronto, Scrimgeour-Brown had tried to use her phone to access Google Maps. The session timed out three times. The three Internet sessions referenced by Bell were actually three unsuccessful attempts to access a map.
"We're basically talking about 10 minutes of access costing us $187," said Brown.
"How could a few minutes of phone surfing possibly cost almost $200?" Brown had asked the Bell Mobility representative.
The rep was sympathetic, Brown recalled, but couldn't do anything about the charge. Bell doesn't own the infrastructure south of the border, so when a Bell subscriber uses the Web on a smart phone outside Bell's territory, it has to charge a fee to cover the cost of users accessing the Internet in the U.S.
It was an expensive way for the Toronto-based family to learn to turn off roaming when outside their cellular carrier's territory. "Michelle was mortified," said Brown. "She didn't know."
"Funny how Bell doesn't put THAT in their ads," said Brown. "Don't you think it would be nice of them to let you know how much it costs before it's on your bill?"
Complaints about cell phone companies topped the list of complaints made to the Better Business Bureau last year, and billing was so confusing that in the U.S. the Federal Communications Commission is asking for help in advising cellular companies on how to simplify their bills.
The lesson? "Paper rules," said Brown. Paper maps, that is.
But turning off roaming when you enter the U.S. may not be enough to avoid such errant charges. When travelling near the Canada-U.S. border, your phone may temporarily switch to a U.S. carrier's network without you knowing it, said WalletPop's tax and technology blogger Terry Fong.
"I was once charged $25 for a 20-minute call that should have cost $4 because I made the call while on a train from Montreal to Toronto," he said. "I was off the Rogers network when I made the call."
Data costs can be even more expensive, Fong noted, especially if the network is not your carrier's U.S. partner.
Read what Fong says you need to do to prevent something like this from happening to you.








Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
3-20-2010 @ 5:41AM
Eileen said...
I work for a cell phone company and our policy is one time courtesy credit for the charges and educate the customer, customer rules, doing it right, valued customer, I don't work for Bell though, I don't believe they value their customers the same way LOL
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3-20-2010 @ 6:45AM
julio cumsille said...
about cell...Telus charge me over $1.800...lol less a 3 h. of used it
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3-20-2010 @ 7:11AM
Jorge said...
It happened to me as well. I had to use google maps in my trip to NY and my bill was charged $195
Then, I found out an option in my cell phone to turn off roaming access outside Canada.
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3-20-2010 @ 1:01PM
Jeanette said...
For the life of me I can't figure out how to turn roaming off. Can you please advise? Far too many times I've been charged exuberant amounts.
Thanks
3-20-2010 @ 9:06AM
jay said...
Learn to read a road map people. They cost $5 and sometimes you can get them for free at tourist informatiom centers or even gas stations.. The old way is best :)
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3-20-2010 @ 9:30AM
Manuel said...
This is why Cell companies in Canada are constantly being challenged,sued,etc..etc...
People like myself and some of the commenters have been ripped off by Cell companies in Canada .
I refuse to pay anything I was not made aware of when signing a contract with them.
Get in touch with their so called customer retension department, 99% of the time you win .
Good Luck !
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3-20-2010 @ 10:02AM
Jay said...
Buy a GPS it the best thing. So far there are no fees for usuing it.
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3-20-2010 @ 10:27AM
henry said...
are people so stupid as to not check what the fees are BEFORE they travel. Then when lost, use Jay's advice, get a map!!
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3-21-2010 @ 2:02AM
oxjr said...
dude... cell phone bills are teeming with hidden charges, you need a lawyer to figure out your bill....I had a contract that gave me a lemon phone, when the company refused to fix or exchange it I canceled my contract and they hit me with an $800 cancelation fee for a phone I could have bought for 120 bucks. I had to go to court to prove the phone was a dud but by the time I won my case I had a $1500 collection charge on my credit report....even with them taking it off it is still on my record as a derogatory item with a zero balance.
3-20-2010 @ 10:39AM
Gail said...
I was charged over 100 dollars when I crossed the border for a day trip for a couple of hours. I called Rogers right away when I received my bill and they didn't make me pay it. They did say that if it happened again I would be responsible. So now I turn off my cell at least 2km from the border. Gail Carter
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3-20-2010 @ 10:40AM
Jenn said...
in my opinion all cell phone companies are terrible for this. I have been with lots of them and i found rogers to be the worst out of them all.
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3-20-2010 @ 11:33AM
eric said...
Live by the cell phone, die by the cell phone!
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3-20-2010 @ 11:55AM
Buck said...
I'm with Rogers and I have an Apple iphone. Ever since i've gotten the thing there have been billing conflicts between their own long distance features, never mind worrying about roaming charges. None the less, i was already used to this complete billing B.S. including overcharges when i had to make a trip to the US. I phoned in advance to find out where the switch was to turn off roaming. As long as i didn't make a phone call or send a text message i was ok. my data retrieval would only work if i had a wireless internet connection, so there was no way it could flip to AT&T roaming. When i got my bill it was fine, but i feel for these people above. These cell phone providers have very bad setups for travel outside your own area. It's complete B.S. and a money making scam for them as far as i'm concerned. If it is really an issue for so many people, then solve it cell providers. Or, at the very least, plaster education on your products and their risks everywhere so at least we know beforehand.
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3-20-2010 @ 12:01PM
TM said...
Only in Canada....
Canadian wireless sucks big time...Id never go with any Canadian company
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3-20-2010 @ 12:10PM
pissed said...
anyone who doesnt check into things and just expects to be given credit for there own dumb mistake is just plain stupid. nobody at any cell company cares if u pay the bill because it goes to collections if u dont we still get paid so it doesnt matter. its also funny how people will try to use the old im a loyal customer routine and then when you check there bill payment history 99 percent of the time they are never on time with there payments
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3-20-2010 @ 12:21PM
W.Palmer said...
These cell company's work on a monopoly on both sides of the border. They are powerful lobby's. As far as they are concerned everything is just fine the way it is.
The users are so immersed in themselves they are oblivious of the usury and lopsided contracts that they sign, or if they don't sign then they don't have a cell phone. so they sign.
The government, who are supposed to be the regulators allow these monopolies because they have been bought and sold and are just as big a crooks as the cell phone companies themselves.
If we are waiting for the government to act on our behalf then it will be a very long wait. All they are good for is taxing and banning things. There has to be a mass movement, pick a model, say Hong Kong and the Far East where cell time is very very cheap and competitive, and demand that it is replicated here, but it will never happen with 4 phone companies, we need competition and so far these companies have been very successful at shutting it out.
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3-20-2010 @ 7:43PM
TM said...
There might be a monopoly in the US as well (or so you claim) but at least their plans differ in some way not true for the crappy canadian wireless companies
3-20-2010 @ 12:27PM
Brian said...
You don't have much hope as far as getting refunds. Even ay as you go plans don't seem to care that they might lose a customer. Contract plans pretty much have you locked in anyway, unless it's getting nrear the end of your contract, then you may be able to use that against them.
Bell is probably the worst. I had over charges where they kept billing for service after I had cancelled, insisting that I had told tghem I wished to continue. I was on auto debit and by the time I found out they taken added plenty. They finally agreed to refund half the money and told me it would take 70 days to process. It took eight months and the threat of legal action before I actually got anything.
Fido is about the same. BAD! We need new consumer protection laws, and laws with real consequences for the offenders!
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3-20-2010 @ 1:48PM
Gilles said...
Sign up with Verizon wireless. They have several unlimited plans including a "North American Plus" plan that is one fixed price. You can travel anywhere in North America (Canada + US) and pay no long distance and no roaming. The canadian carriers no longer have a monopoly so it's time to screw them now just like they've been screwing us over the years.
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3-20-2010 @ 1:52PM
Melissa Chong said...
once you're on a contract, they have you by the balls.
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