Do Not Call List - A Joke?
Filed under: Consumer Complaints, Fraud, House & Home
It seemed like a good idea in theory and given response rates the public appears happy to have the National Do Not Call List in force, but there are some glaring gaps in the system and more people are raising criticism about enforcement and the list's effectiveness in general. One report earlier this summer puts the number of complaints received by the Canadian Radio-television Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) at well over 300,000. As of March 1, however, despite having levied around $73,000 in fines, the CRTC had only collected $250.
"We've collected a lot more than that," says Andrea Rosen, chief telecommunications enforcement officer. "We haven't' collected them all but we are working on it. We plan to be at 100 per cent very soon."
She says a lot of complaints come from people who don't realize that they have a business relationship with those who are calling – if you've done business with a company within the last 18 months they have the right to keep calling. If you want them to stop, she says, "there are extra steps the consumer needs to take in order to make sure they don't get annoyed."
Specifically, you need to ask the company in question to add your name to their own, internal do not call lists. (Companies are required, as part of the CRTC's rules, to maintain such lists and keep your name on them for three years after you make a request to be added – they have a 31 day grace period to process your information. During that time, you may still get additional calls.)
| Yes: the calls have stopped | |
|---|---|
| No: I am still getting calls | |
| Not sure |
Given that a lot of calls come from places like Florida, France and other locations overseas though, chances are you'll never really shake the tour operator who's trying to say you've won a cruise. Newspaper subscription sales people in Canada, some of the worst offenders in my personal experience, are also completely exempt from the rules. (Though they must still maintain their own internal lists as well, and respect your request if you ask them not to call.) Similarly, political parties and charities are also exempt and may still call, even if you've had your name placed on the national DNCL.
Despite criticisms, Rosen says surveys are showing that Canadians agree they're getting significantly fewer calls as a result of the national list. "To our way of thinking, it's working," she says.
As for uncollected fines and penalties, she says the CRTC is able to recoup the money through collection agencies, federal court actions and from Canada Revenue by garnishing any refunds due to offenders.
"We hope they'll send it (penalty payments) in right away. If they don't, we have several means available to us," she says. "All notices of violation are registered with the court and therefore become a debt to her majesty. That debt can be collected."
Kate McCaffery is a freelance writer in Toronto, Ontario. Visit mccaffery.ca/kate2.0/ for more information.














Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
9-05-2010 @ 9:58AM
E. Ekimi said...
What a joke. The other day I had Great Lakes Insulation Company call me and as soon as I questioned why she was calling me (due to my being on the Do Not Call List) she blew a gasket. She told me she had a right to contact me becasue my number was in the phone book and she needed to make a living like everyone else. I don't think is is so much educating people receiving the calls as it is business who need to be told that they cannot market their products or service over the phone --This is phone SPAM. Perhaps phones should be able to control SPAM callers much like we can control unwanted e-mail SPAM???
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9-03-2010 @ 8:26AM
Karl.D said...
I get constantly hassled by the ROM and a Carpet cleaning company.All I can say is thanks for Call display! And DNC is a joke
9-03-2010 @ 6:57PM
kerry said...
I screen all my calls through call display.I notice that very few of them will leave a message on my answering machine,which is telling
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9-08-2010 @ 4:16PM
PhilP said...
After yet another call from 416-313-4982 I googled
canada "do not call" joke
and came upon this forum. I have to say the "do not call list" in Canada is truly a joke for (at least) 3 reasons:
1) there is no enforcement of either the list nor complaints
2) "caller id" is totally spoofed in so many instances to entice the called party to pick up the phone
3) a big chunk of the parties we wish to stop calls from appear to be "exempt" from the DNC list
If I order something on the web, 99 times out of 100 when I register I have the option to receive emails from the site and/or affiliates, while the CRTC takes the stand if I have ever ordered something from a vendor (phone or otherwise) they have the right to harass me on the phone.
Since I am Canadian, I have to say I'm sorry, but I feel the Do Not Call List in Canada is a joke, it protects the vendor rather than the consumer, even those annoying "voice casts" which took me forever to find out that they too were exempt !!
Phil
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4-19-2011 @ 7:59PM
GRANT C. said...
Has anybody tried to complain lately. This no call list is a joke. It won’t even accept my information. It says that 780 isn't a good area code. That's only the area code for the northern part of Alberta. I guess we don't count. I can’t even find anyone to complain to that the web site isn’t working properly. This is typical government bullshit as far as I can see. That Andrea Rosen must be some government official’s relative that needed a job because she doesn't no what she's talking about.
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